We spoke about his wife, for me. I'm not married, but I have family of my own, and--well. We've both agreed many times that no one here is worth sacrificing our true loyalties for. It was a little insulting to hear them call him untrustworthy, in my opinion.
[Childe thinks Pride is one of the most trustworthy people in this whole place, honestly. Not once has he pretended to be anything other than what he is, and Childe can respect that.]
But he won't give us anything if we don't have a better option for him. I think he'd be willing to work with us, but only if it doesn't come at the cost of his wish--if such a thing is even truly attainable to begin with, which I doubt.
[ law will nod along. not knocking anything back but he'll have his arms crossed. ]
I agreed with you. Pride has been nothing but straight-forward with me about his opinions of things. We were both willing to do anything for our wishes. [ a bit of a pause here. ] ...the matter of my wish is a bit different now but I still want the happiest ending possible.
I received a strange text from them the last time we spoke. It was distorted; glitched like our messages to the living. Unfortunately it was my last message to them so I couldn't follow up after it.
[ hmm! the plot thickens as he tucks the phone away. ]
Not yet. I want to make use of ten text messages to the best as I can. I want to figure out what could have caused it. [ everything was so innocuous??? ] Given the nature of our conversation at that time...
[ ... ]
I might try to appeal to the side of him that he's shown us. I still have nothing to bargain with but he and I are similar so I don't think it would be impossible to reason with him.
You're right. I don't think so either. [Pride isn't unreasonable. He just doesn't tolerate bullshit, and sticks to what's important.] But we have no cards to play, so we'll need a damn good argument. I don't think he'll listen if we try to point out that he might not get his wish regardless.
[So... they bring him a plan that might work, with low risk to Pride and his wish.]
What was it that you and Omi were discussing earlier? "Reprogramming"?
Whatever we decide to do with Pride, it won't be something that happens in a single conversation. I'm prepared to speak to them as many times necessary to appeal to that side. [ ... ] Or, well, if nothing else, they are good company to talk to.
[ it's a gamble honestly? pride is such a wild card and might be a lost cause but... no harm in try? as for the matter of "reprogramming"... ]
About UWU? I don't think I noted it clearly in my notebook, but the coding for it and how it understands things as well as how it behaves seems to have been distorted in a way. I think once it made sense but now it has become dumbed down and is the reason why it behaves like a child.
Mm. Wearing him down probably won't work, but as long as we're respectful, he probably won't kill us on the spot.
[But he nods. And now that town hall is over, he leans his head back.]
We'll see what Lust has to say, if it's really a viable plan. I don't think getting into it will be as simple as bringing it into a room--that was my biggest concern with that ridiculous plan they mentioned earlier.
[ hello?? but yeah...god. townhall why are you like this??? ]
But definitely not. It'll be more involved in that and I don't believe it'll be entirely in our hands to be able to solve it. We sure have a lot more to lose than those who are still living but they're still in play while we aren't.
No, but don't you think that's how he'll react if we push him too hard on this?
[He thinks Pride would absolutely kill them for suggesting ditching his daughter to save their sorry asses, is all.]
I agree. Those books of theirs may be useful, but Molly brought up a good point when he asked where those items come from. I know they described it as "a cat playing with its food", but I don't know how apt that is.
[So it could be feeding them a whole bunch of lies.]
We should consider a backup plan, too, in case reprogramming doesn't work.
I don't exactly plan to push him as to...bullshit my way into a conversation about it.
[ aka shitposting.... ]
If UWU is giving them items as well, I don't even want to think about how complicated that'll make things. [ he really does not want to think about that. it'd be hell especially since they get no say in the matter. ] Another back-up plan? Obviously pitting the Avatars against one another isn't a justifiable plan.
You try it that way, then. [A sigh.] Lust told me to be patient, and not force him. I'm a little worried he'll think our plan will put his wish at risk, but they know more about the creature than we do. If this plan won't work, I trust him to tell me.
[Since Childe's pretty sure Pride doesn't want them all dead, actually? He'll just do anything to get his wish. All they need is a viable alternative to get him on their side, really.]
I agree. I think it's best just to assume that the information we got from them is truthful, more or less. We don't have the time or resources to handle it, if it isn't.
[So they're stuck with trust, which fucking sucks, but. C'est la death.]
No, it's not. [Avatar v. Avatar probably won't work, sadly.] And killing the creature isn't, either. The living mentioned a collective wish, but I highly doubt we'd be able to get everyone to agree to that. Not if it means giving up our current wishes.
[It wasn't actually a terrible theory, just... nearly impossible to achieve, with this group. He's just running through their ideas, though, now that it's a bit quieter, and they can think them through.]
...The other thing we need to consider is the creature's connection to the avatars. If we change it, it might affect them negatively. We'll have to tread carefully about that too.
[ GIVEN CHILDE'S UPDATE, i'm glazing over a lot of this since obviously it works out how law thinks that it would. rather, how both of them think it would?? the matter is more of... a third option. ]
Did you hear about the visions that we saw here? I believe I left it out of my notebook, but I wonder if there's anything that could be learned from it.
[ pixi you have no idea how much i was like "WELL ALL OF THIS IS MOOT BUT&mdash" ]
One of the memories that we saw was the Avatars deciding to become Avatars. They were in some room where they all decided on having one more chance. There was a ninth person with them, but we might know who that is at this point.
[ it was hisoka.... ]
A more recent memory that we received was about how they were taking to their new forms. How they decided to go by something other than their names. Interestingly, Pride was the only one who wasn't showcased or properly mentioned in that one.
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[He sighs, tossing back his drink.]
We spoke about his wife, for me. I'm not married, but I have family of my own, and--well. We've both agreed many times that no one here is worth sacrificing our true loyalties for. It was a little insulting to hear them call him untrustworthy, in my opinion.
[Childe thinks Pride is one of the most trustworthy people in this whole place, honestly. Not once has he pretended to be anything other than what he is, and Childe can respect that.]
But he won't give us anything if we don't have a better option for him. I think he'd be willing to work with us, but only if it doesn't come at the cost of his wish--if such a thing is even truly attainable to begin with, which I doubt.
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I agreed with you. Pride has been nothing but straight-forward with me about his opinions of things. We were both willing to do anything for our wishes. [ a bit of a pause here. ] ...the matter of my wish is a bit different now but I still want the happiest ending possible.
[ he's definitely quoting "happiest ending possible" from someone else and...hmm. ]
I received a strange text from them the last time we spoke. It was distorted; glitched like our messages to the living. Unfortunately it was my last message to them so I couldn't follow up after it.
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[So he's fine with giving it up if he has to, honestly. Survival is the priority now.]
Do you still have it? Or do you remember what it said? If you could make out anything.
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[ as for the text, yeah, law still has it and he'll take out his phone and show it to him. ]
...has this happened to you with any other Avatar? I'm fairly certain it says "Thought you were alright too".
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No, that's never happened to me. Did you ask him about it? I've only seen Lust here, since I arrived.
[But this is only his second day being dead, so.]
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Not yet. I want to make use of ten text messages to the best as I can. I want to figure out what could have caused it. [ everything was so innocuous??? ] Given the nature of our conversation at that time...
[ ... ]
I might try to appeal to the side of him that he's shown us. I still have nothing to bargain with but he and I are similar so I don't think it would be impossible to reason with him.
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You're right. I don't think so either. [Pride isn't unreasonable. He just doesn't tolerate bullshit, and sticks to what's important.] But we have no cards to play, so we'll need a damn good argument. I don't think he'll listen if we try to point out that he might not get his wish regardless.
[So... they bring him a plan that might work, with low risk to Pride and his wish.]
What was it that you and Omi were discussing earlier? "Reprogramming"?
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[ it's a gamble honestly? pride is such a wild card and might be a lost cause but... no harm in try? as for the matter of "reprogramming"... ]
About UWU? I don't think I noted it clearly in my notebook, but the coding for it and how it understands things as well as how it behaves seems to have been distorted in a way. I think once it made sense but now it has become dumbed down and is the reason why it behaves like a child.
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[But he nods. And now that town hall is over, he leans his head back.]
We'll see what Lust has to say, if it's really a viable plan. I don't think getting into it will be as simple as bringing it into a room--that was my biggest concern with that ridiculous plan they mentioned earlier.
[THE FURBY FUCK HEIST...]
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[ hello?? but yeah...god. townhall why are you like this??? ]
But definitely not. It'll be more involved in that and I don't believe it'll be entirely in our hands to be able to solve it. We sure have a lot more to lose than those who are still living but they're still in play while we aren't.
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No, but don't you think that's how he'll react if we push him too hard on this?
[He thinks Pride would absolutely kill them for suggesting ditching his daughter to save their sorry asses, is all.]
I agree. Those books of theirs may be useful, but Molly brought up a good point when he asked where those items come from. I know they described it as "a cat playing with its food", but I don't know how apt that is.
[So it could be feeding them a whole bunch of lies.]
We should consider a backup plan, too, in case reprogramming doesn't work.
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[ aka shitposting.... ]
If UWU is giving them items as well, I don't even want to think about how complicated that'll make things. [ he really does not want to think about that. it'd be hell especially since they get no say in the matter. ] Another back-up plan? Obviously pitting the Avatars against one another isn't a justifiable plan.
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You try it that way, then. [A sigh.] Lust told me to be patient, and not force him. I'm a little worried he'll think our plan will put his wish at risk, but they know more about the creature than we do. If this plan won't work, I trust him to tell me.
[Since Childe's pretty sure Pride doesn't want them all dead, actually? He'll just do anything to get his wish. All they need is a viable alternative to get him on their side, really.]
I agree. I think it's best just to assume that the information we got from them is truthful, more or less. We don't have the time or resources to handle it, if it isn't.
[So they're stuck with trust, which fucking sucks, but. C'est la death.]
No, it's not. [Avatar v. Avatar probably won't work, sadly.] And killing the creature isn't, either. The living mentioned a collective wish, but I highly doubt we'd be able to get everyone to agree to that. Not if it means giving up our current wishes.
[It wasn't actually a terrible theory, just... nearly impossible to achieve, with this group. He's just running through their ideas, though, now that it's a bit quieter, and they can think them through.]
...The other thing we need to consider is the creature's connection to the avatars. If we change it, it might affect them negatively. We'll have to tread carefully about that too.
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[ GIVEN CHILDE'S UPDATE, i'm glazing over a lot of this since obviously it works out how law thinks that it would. rather, how both of them think it would?? the matter is more of... a third option. ]
Did you hear about the visions that we saw here? I believe I left it out of my notebook, but I wonder if there's anything that could be learned from it.
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ANYWAY, he shakes his head.]
No. What happened?
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One of the memories that we saw was the Avatars deciding to become Avatars. They were in some room where they all decided on having one more chance. There was a ninth person with them, but we might know who that is at this point.
[ it was hisoka.... ]
A more recent memory that we received was about how they were taking to their new forms. How they decided to go by something other than their names. Interestingly, Pride was the only one who wasn't showcased or properly mentioned in that one.